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SimonT New Bee
Joined: 20 Apr 2011 Posts: 7 Location: UK, Northamptonshire, Yelvertoft
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imkeer Foraging Bee

Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Posts: 203 Location: Belgium, Antwerpen, Schilde
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:31 am Post subject: |
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The shb was found in a trap hive in a container port in the south of Italy on september 5 2014. Several trap colonies were placed in this port, just because it has a higher risk of getting the shb in. So the guarding system with trap colonies worked !
Since then, Italy started a national surveillance program that has its focus on an area of 20 km. around this port...
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Adam Rose Silver Bee
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Posts: 589 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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imkeer wrote: | So the guarding system with trap colonies worked ! |
I don't think so !
If you read through the link in the original post, someone says "It appears to have been in a bait hive run by the University of Reggio Calabria nr the port of Gioia Tauro". If its being found in bait hives, then it has become naturalised and is no longer localised to port areas.
Another post in the thread says that there has been a run in Calabria on medication used for treatment. So beekeepers either know or think that it has spread widely.
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imkeer Foraging Bee

Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Posts: 203 Location: Belgium, Antwerpen, Schilde
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I think you are thinking wrong here, Adam. It may be a translation problem. The bait hives were not meant to trap bees, they were ment to trap shb and were checked regularly. (I don't know the details but I suppose the university that set up these "shb trap colonies" based the frequency of the check-ups on the biological data of the reproduction of the shb.)
You don't have to believe everything that's placed on a forum, the same counts for what I'm writing here... So check it out!
There are better reasons to stop import/export of bees worldwide, very different from fear of diseases and pests. Locally adapted bees are more vital and healthy, and live longer.
The UK has "sentinel apiaries" and that's good to check what comes in and intervene if needed. I'm not sure every country has this...
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Adam Rose Silver Bee
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Posts: 589 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Ah - thanks for the correction. I thought someone had just some normal bait hives set out and the SBH were found in those. |
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prakel Guard Bee
Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 65 Location: Dorset, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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The link mentioned at the top of this thread has now evolved to the point where reports of further cases have been discovered in another apiary. |
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imkeer Foraging Bee

Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Posts: 203 Location: Belgium, Antwerpen, Schilde
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I'm all for a total import-export stop in the whole of Europe. But can't it be that the secondary case is also part of the guarding system with sentinel apiaries? Gioia Tauro is on one side of the container terminal, and Rosarno is on the other side...
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zaunreiter Moderator Bee

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 3097 Location: Germany, NorthWest
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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The Small Hive Beetle also travels with fruit that is imported, it is said. So with all the importation of food, it is just a matter of time until the beetle arrives.
A lot of beekeepers in Germany winter their bees in Italy. Even in south Italy. |
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zaunreiter Moderator Bee

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 3097 Location: Germany, NorthWest
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zaunreiter Moderator Bee

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 3097 Location: Germany, NorthWest
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Che Guebuddha Golden Bee

Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1551 Location: Hårlev, Stevns Kommune, Denmark
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I asked on the treatment-free facebook page what they do with SHB and this is the answer I've got;
"Keep a strong hive, and make sure you have enough bees to cover ALL your protein sources. And remember, your protein sources include pollen, pollen patties, brood, larval cocoons, even dead bees. If you don't have enough bees to cover all these, you need to remove some protein." |
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zaunreiter Moderator Bee

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 3097 Location: Germany, NorthWest
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Also an oil tray under a mesh bottom shall help as do beetle traps (with oil) in the upper part of the hive. Mineral oil is used commonly as it seems not to go sluggish as quick as vegetable oil would.  |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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They won't be able to stop them now. Y'all get ready! Now you can love to hate them as much as we do here in the States
I've had four years to deal with the beetles. I've tried the mesh floors with detachable tubs of oil underneath. I didn't like working with it, and the bees were losing a lot of pollen through the mesh. Also, wax moths were using the seams to spin cocoons. By far the most effective method I've found, at least for my region, which is the Southern US state of Georgia, is one I devised with canning jars and rings. I bait the jars with pieces of comb, preferably with some pollen, and drizzle some honey. I set it on a piece of bamboo in a shallow amount of mineral oil, about 1 cm or so. I then screw it onto the bottom board. Holes in the board allow for the beetles to access the jars. Funnels keep them from coming out again. Screened lids keep the bees from going in and getting trapped. There is no need to open the hive or expose the bees to anything that can hurt them. I've tried hives with three, four, and five holes. Three and four work fine, five is probably overkill. http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK? |
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Che Guebuddha Golden Bee

Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1551 Location: Hårlev, Stevns Kommune, Denmark
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I just read in the Danish bee magazine that many professional beekeepers buy queens from Italy. Århus University is asking all those who bough queens from Italy to inform the university so they can set beetle traps and observe those hives. They are also asking people to stop buying Italian queens.
It is strange that they are "asking", instead the government should ban all imports of queens from Italy.
Apparently many German bees are migrated to Denmark for pollination. This is just creating more issues since migratory bees are known to spread disease on an alarming rate.
When will we realise that our very life style is the real issue? |
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meant2bee Nurse Bee

Joined: 28 Aug 2014 Posts: 27 Location: Hawai'i, Kaua'i, Lawai
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: SHB traps |
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Here on Kaua'i, we did not have the small hive beetle until about 3 years ago; now it is everywhere.
Thanks for the trap idea, JGW07- very explicit pictures. I see very few Small Hive Beetle in my Top Bar Hive so far but there is a constant drop of both beetles and larvae in my Lang, which has a screened bottom board and a pan of soapy water below. I've been unsatisfied with this as a means of control and may have to try some traps like you have. |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:13 am Post subject: |
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meant2bee, you're welcome. It's a shame Hawaii couldn't keep them out, but I don't think any place will be able to forever. |
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zaunreiter Moderator Bee

Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 3097 Location: Germany, NorthWest
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